With no game this week, it’s a good time to take a closer look at the trade the Steelers made to acquire Daniel Sepulveda in the 2007 draft, because certain people here like to mischaracterize that trade as an example of the front office’s alleged bumbling mismanagement.  The Steelers sent their 4th round pick (#119) and their 6th round pick (#192) to Green Bay in exchange for the Packers 4th round pick (#112) in order to ensure that they could draft Sepulveda.  If they hadn’t made the trade, they would have attempted to get Sepulveda at #119, but they calculated that they might lose him, so essentially all they did was give up their 6th round pick to guarantee that they got the punter they had targeted for the fourth round.

What did Green Bay do with the Steelers 4th and 6th round picks?  Well, in the 4th round the Packers selected OL Allen Barbre, whom in a very undistinguished career was on the inactive list for 16 of his first 32 NFL games as a backup OG. Now in his 3rd season, he was shifted to OT and due to the fact that GB has no one else, he was forced into the starting lineup at the start of this season. All he’s done this year is showcase his mediocrity by giving up more sacks than any OT in the NFL through the first seven weeks, and performing equally miserably in the run game.  Geez, maybe the Steelers should have hung onto pick #119 and taken Barbre?  I don’t think so.

So then we go to the 6th round, where the Steelers had no selection because of the Sepulveda trade.  Did that cost them anything?  Well first, consider the fact that even though they had no 6th round pick, they did have a compensatory pick following round 5, which essentially is the start of round 6.  Who’d the Steelers use that pick on?  William Gay, who of course is a solid starter on the reigning Super Bowl champions.  That was their 6th round pick!  But if they had held on to the pick they traded to GB in order to secure Sepulveda, could they have gotten another good player?  And who did the Packers use that 6th round Steelers pick on?

Here, bunched in groups of five to make the reading easy, are the players taken in round 6 of the 2007 NFL draft.  Please hold your applause for this group until the last name is read. Thank you.  2007 round 6 draftees:

Rufus Alexander, Jacob Bender, Nick Folk, H.B. Blades, Justin Rogers

Reagan Mauia, Adam Hayward, Kasey Studdard, John Wendling, Trey Lewis

Thomas Clayton, Matt Toeaina, Joel Finlani, Adam Koets, Ken Shackleford

Kory Hall, Desmond Bishop, Mason Crosby, David Irons, Deon Anderson

Herbert Taylor, Courtney Taylor, Dough Datish, Drew Mormino, Melila Purcell

Rashad Barksdale, Mike Richardson, Daren Stone, Jacob Ford, Jordan Palmer

Ryan Smith, Prescott Burgess, Justise Hairston, Corey Hillard, Jordan Kent.

Which one of those nobodies did the Packers get with the Steelers pick?  Does it even matter?  It was Desmond Bishop, who’s an inconsequential backup linebacker and special team’s player for the Packers.  Would the Steelers have been a better team in 2007, 2008, 2009 or ever, if they had kept that 6th round pick? No.  Did swapping 4th round slots with Green Bay make any difference whatsoever? Yes, in that it ensured that they got the player they wanted – a skilled, reliable punter they plan to keep around for a dozen years.

So all things considered, it was a tremendous move to secure Sepulveda in round 4, because it cost the Steelers nothing, and they got their 6th round player (who's better than anyone drafted in round 6) by taking Gay with a compensatory pick right before round 6.  The people who continue to hold this trade out as some sort of dramatic, costly error in judgement either have no idea what they are talking about, or they just choose to gloss over the fact that it was a sound, cost-free move. Kudos to the front office.

quoting TheStallworthSwann:

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With no game this week, it’s a good time to take a closer look at the trade the Steelers made to acquire Daniel Sepulveda in the 2007 draft, because certain people here like to mischaracterize that trade as an example of the front office’s alleged bumbling mismanagement.  The Steelers sent their 4th round pick (#119) and their 6th round pick (#192) to Green Bay in exchange for the Packers 4th round pick (#112) in order to ensure that they could draft Sepulveda.  If they hadn’t made the trade, they would have attempted to get Sepulveda at #119, but they calculated that they might lose him, so essentially all they did was give up their 6th round pick to guarantee that they got the punter they had targeted for the fourth round.

 

What did Green Bay do with the Steelers 4th and 6th round picks?  Well, in the 4th round the Packers selected OL Allen Barbre, whom in a very undistinguished career was on the inactive list for 16 of his first 32 NFL games as a backup OG. Now in his 3rd season, he was shifted to OT and due to the fact that GB has no one else, he was forced into the starting lineup at the start of this season. All he’s done this year is showcase his mediocrity by giving up more sacks than any OT in the NFL through the first seven weeks, and performing equally miserably in the run game.  Geez, maybe the Steelers should have hung onto pick #119 and taken Barbre?  I don’t think so.

 

So then we go to the 6th round, where the Steelers had no selection because of the Sepulveda trade.  Did that cost them anything?  Well first, consider the fact that even though they had no 6th round pick, they did have a compensatory pick following round 5, which essentially is the start of round 6.  Who’d the Steelers use that pick on?  William Gay, who of course is a solid starter on the reigning Super Bowl champions.  That was their 6th round pick!  But if they had held on to the pick they traded to GB in order to secure Sepulveda, could they have gotten another good player?  And who did the Packers use that 6th round Steelers pick on?

 

Here, bunched in groups of five to make the reading easy, are the players taken in round 6 of the 2007 NFL draft.  Please hold your applause for this group until the last name is read. Thank you.  2007 round 6 draftees:

 

Rufus Alexander, Jacob Bender, Nick Folk, H.B. Blades, Justin Rogers

Reagan Mauia, Adam Hayward, Kasey Studdard, John Wendling, Trey Lewis

Thomas Clayton, Matt Toeaina, Joel Finlani, Adam Koets, Ken Shackleford

Kory Hall, Desmond Bishop, Mason Crosby, David Irons, Deon Anderson

Herbert Taylor, Courtney Taylor, Dough Datish, Drew Mormino, Melila Purcell

Rashad Barksdale, Mike Richardson, Daren Stone, Jacob Ford, Jordan Palmer

Ryan Smith, Prescott Burgess, Justise Hairston, Corey Hillard, Jordan Kent.

 

Which one of those nobodies did the Packers get with the Steelers pick?  Does it even matter?  It was Desmond Bishop, who’s an inconsequential backup linebacker and special team’s player for the Packers.  Would the Steelers have been a better team in 2007, 2008, 2009 or ever, if they had kept that 6th round pick? No.  Did swapping 4th round slots with Green Bay make any difference whatsoever? Yes, in that it ensured that they got the player they wanted – a skilled, reliable punter they plan to keep around for a dozen years.

 

So all things considered, it was a tremendous move to secure Sepulveda in round 4, because it cost the Steelers nothing, and they got their 6th round player (who's better than anyone drafted in round 6) by taking Gay with a compensatory pick right before round 6.  The people who continue to hold this trade out as some sort of dramatic, costly error in judgement either have no idea what they are talking about, or they just choose to gloss over the fact that it was a sound, cost-free move. Kudos to the front office.

 

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quoting TheStallworthSwann:

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With no game this week, it’s a good time to take a closer look at the trade the Steelers made to acquire Daniel Sepulveda in the 2007 draft, because certain people here like to mischaracterize that trade as an example of the front office’s alleged bumbling mismanagement.  The Steelers sent their 4th round pick (#119) and their 6th round pick (#192) to Green Bay in exchange for the Packers 4th round pick (#112) in order to ensure that they could draft Sepulveda.  If they hadn’t made the trade, they would have attempted to get Sepulveda at #119, but they calculated that they might lose him, so essentially all they did was give up their 6th round pick to guarantee that they got the punter they had targeted for the fourth round.

 

What did Green Bay do with the Steelers 4th and 6th round picks?  Well, in the 4th round the Packers selected OL Allen Barbre, whom in a very undistinguished career was on the inactive list for 16 of his first 32 NFL games as a backup OG. Now in his 3rd season, he was shifted to OT and due to the fact that GB has no one else, he was forced into the starting lineup at the start of this season. All he’s done this year is showcase his mediocrity by giving up more sacks than any OT in the NFL through the first seven weeks, and performing equally miserably in the run game.  Geez, maybe the Steelers should have hung onto pick #119 and taken Barbre?  I don’t think so.

 

So then we go to the 6th round, where the Steelers had no selection because of the Sepulveda trade.  Did that cost them anything?  Well first, consider the fact that even though they had no 6th round pick, they did have a compensatory pick following round 5, which essentially is the start of round 6.  Who’d the Steelers use that pick on?  William Gay, who of course is a solid starter on the reigning Super Bowl champions.  That was their 6th round pick!  But if they had held on to the pick they traded to GB in order to secure Sepulveda, could they have gotten another good player?  And who did the Packers use that 6th round Steelers pick on?

 

Here, bunched in groups of five to make the reading easy, are the players taken in round 6 of the 2007 NFL draft.  Please hold your applause for this group until the last name is read. Thank you.  2007 round 6 draftees:

 

Rufus Alexander, Jacob Bender, Nick Folk, H.B. Blades, Justin Rogers

Reagan Mauia, Adam Hayward, Kasey Studdard, John Wendling, Trey Lewis

Thomas Clayton, Matt Toeaina, Joel Finlani, Adam Koets, Ken Shackleford

Kory Hall, Desmond Bishop, Mason Crosby, David Irons, Deon Anderson

Herbert Taylor, Courtney Taylor, Dough Datish, Drew Mormino, Melila Purcell

Rashad Barksdale, Mike Richardson, Daren Stone, Jacob Ford, Jordan Palmer

Ryan Smith, Prescott Burgess, Justise Hairston, Corey Hillard, Jordan Kent.

 

Which one of those nobodies did the Packers get with the Steelers pick?  Does it even matter?  It was Desmond Bishop, who’s an inconsequential backup linebacker and special team’s player for the Packers.  Would the Steelers have been a better team in 2007, 2008, 2009 or ever, if they had kept that 6th round pick? No.  Did swapping 4th round slots with Green Bay make any difference whatsoever? Yes, in that it ensured that they got the player they wanted – a skilled, reliable punter they plan to keep around for a dozen years.

 

So all things considered, it was a tremendous move to secure Sepulveda in round 4, because it cost the Steelers nothing, and they got their 6th round player (who's better than anyone drafted in round 6) by taking Gay with a compensatory pick right before round 6.  The people who continue to hold this trade out as some sort of dramatic, costly error in judgement either have no idea what they are talking about, or they just choose to gloss over the fact that it was a sound, cost-free move. Kudos to the front office.

 

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quoting TheStallworthSwann:

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Nice research dude..

I rarely question the steelers draft. They have a pretty d_amn good track record.

I had no problem w/Sepuleda at the time when I saw his stats.

You appreciate more after having a guy like Berger punt last year.

I think the fans saw what they were missing when Sepulveda punted for the first time this season.

Lots of cheering!

quoting HinesWarden:

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who now is regretting that trade to get Sepulveda? I'm sure everyone agrees it was a great trade after what we went thru last year.

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Ever hear of a guy named deljzc? lol

I don't think a week's gone by since the 2007 draft that he hasn't worked in a complaint about that trade.  It's the centerpiece of his anti-Colbert campaign.

quoting lexnbenz:

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your grammer is decent.  but three years of spellcheck?  really?

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quoting 6stinkyfingers:

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quoting lexnbenz:

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your grammer is decent.  but three years of spellcheck?  really?

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I hope you are being ironic.

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Guys, don't worry about responding.  This is for deljzc.  I've got my popcorn and I'm going to sit back and enjoy the show.

BTW, I'm glad we have Sep and dont' agree with deljzc's notion that a punter is some fraction of a percent of a team's value and worth.  When I read his schtick, it is clear to me that he has never set foot on a football field and chooses to analyze players, teams, etc. by looking at stats through whatever myopic and twisted perspective he can come up with.  Often times the same stats can be twisted to make or refute an argument.